Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. Somewhat related, when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob tale. QUESTION: Does it appear to resemble the radio . Billy's story should reinforce that belief if you already have it. Even more shocking, was their discovery of 19 year old William Garretson, of the Lancaster, Ohio area, sitting unharmed and shirtless on a couch in the guesthouse. Also from his polygraph interview;"and I was going to go back to Ohio in March, and I was picked up for Possession of Marijuana, and it was lowered to Visitation. ANSWER: You mean 7 or 8 around the pool or what? We were traveling with another band that supported us for the entire tour. Casparus Garretson and his wife lived at Mill Creek Hundred, New Castle, De. He has no connection with these proceedings. Sandymount Strand! William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. After Parent gave Garretson a ride back to the estate the young caretaker thanked him. Or maybe create it if you do not. If you read through Billy's. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. There's too much (hate) on this earth now, so Manson is at peace now, I hope.". Please don't stay forever angry, Mrs. Billy #1. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. His phone even. Designed to look like a European cottage, it was first owned by the French actress Michele Morgan. QUESTION: You dont recall whether it was chilly out or not, do you? QUESTION: And that there was about a 6 second delay between the time the dogs barked and the guests arrived, is that correct? The larger dog. Like a lot of his stories, I discovered that Charlie's tales of his upbringing don't always closely match up with the historical record. Garretson was the caretaker of Rudi Altobelli's Cielo Drive estate in Benedict Canyon, which at the time was rented out to Roman Polanski and his wife Sharon Tate. He is from USA. ANSWER: Yes, I seen Miss Folgers Firebird. ANSWER: Well, he might have been in Italy, in Europe, yes. QUESTION: About what time I cant pronounce the name myself what time did that dog leave? Buntline, yes thanks. ANSWER: I purchased a TV dinner and some cigarettes and some Pepsi-Cola. I could not distinguish if he was barking any louder than he generally was any other night. (A historical marker located in Waterloo in Monroe County, Illinois.) He said he hitch-hiked from Ohio to California. Maybe he peed on the floor, who knows. Billy tells Bugliosi in courtthat he moved out of Cielo Dr. on August 9th. QUESTION: All right, when were you released? "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife said. "They never really was taught or loved, so no, I do not want to hate. Tecumseh was tough but had an insane brother. May it be marked Peoples 22 for identification? MR. STOVITZ: Would Your Honor order this witness back for Monday, please? The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. He was given a polygraph examination on August 10, 1969, and that had effectively eliminated him as a suspect. Like so many of the souls trapped within this dark miasma, you never had a chance. Maybe two counting when the police let him go. Thanks for the time you spend crafting your pieces, GreenWhite, and may the ink in your pen never run dry. --Who paid the fee for Billy's high priced lawyer, and why?--How did Billy manage to avoid the draft? To me, that's a coward.". He claimed the sucker was called "Rice or something like that." Please accept the unpaid researcher position I offer in the future. He said so in his testimony. A native of Lancaster, Ohio, Garretson stayed in a small cottage behind the main house. Do you recog- Rich people don't want contact with the hoi polloi. He lived in a town where things change slowly and everyone knows everybody's business. QUESTION: Another photograph of the living room, is that correct? Lots of Beverly Hillbillies actresses and heiresses using the pool with the help. nize what that object is? Howeverhe had the tendency (like many other people) to break away from the party/group and leave/go home/fall asleep in a closet, etcwhen he was WAY LOADED.We broke into 3 groups and, began to search for him in the co-op (nope) the nearby park, pub, benches (nope) and, we (were pretty loaded and loud) asked if we could get a few of the locals to accompany us as we ventured into the areas we were told to avoid at all costsWellI just happened to be in the search party group that eventually found Justinpassed out hard, in a narrow alley. Mrs. Billy #3 is probably still out there, too. Btw, Washington Courthouse is pronounced, you guessed it, Warshington Courthouse. QUESTION: Did you ever see other people using the pool? I mostly only internally discuss food wants and upcoming meals with myself. QUESTION: You had seen him on or about the premises? The Garretsons. ANSWER: Another one came and pointed another rifle, and then another one, and he was pointing a pistol, and he kicked in the door, and Christopher bit him on the leg. Except for the bj ancedote but I did ask. When Mrs. Polanski came back, yes, it was there. QUESTION: How did you get from the gate to the guest house, what route did you take? Billy possibly had one lucky day in his entire life and you know when I mean. QUESTION: During that period of time, did you know who was living in the main house? QUESTION: You had it on about medium, is that correct? QUESTION: Actually, it was your impression that Mr. Frykowski was, in fact, the younger brother of Roman Polanski, is that correct? Try to lead the proceedings down blind alleys. !Two seriously insane (and, frighteningly, stereotypical - in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE ) toothless Gypsy women had been/were taking turns on him as if Justin was a young Bill Garretson!! QUESTION: Do you have a volume control on that stereo? QUESTION: Is that the entrance you customarily use for ingress and egress? THE COURT: I dont find anything inconsistent. Then counter every possible defence angle, whether it be drugs, mental illness, coercion, alibi etc. QUESTION: He left about 15 minutes after midnight; is that what you are saying? Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Copyright 2023 Distractify. THE COURT: He is not going to use the word impeachment; he is going to ask him if he said it. QUESTION: Do you know any of the defendants in this case, Defendants Charles Manson, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, and Leslie Van Houten? Discover William Garretson's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. Is that the stereo about which you were referring earlier in your testimony? The answer is stricken. Bill did hint during his interview with LAPD that Abigail and Voytek were concerned about this. His buddy Darrell, home from Vietnam, visited but Garretson kicked him out when he saw Darrell take bottles of champagne during one of the Polanskis house parties that summer. ANSWER: I think I was laying out in the sun, Im not sure. The mouth of Cielo is downhill and on the other side of the hill where the home is. QUESTION: if you were standing at the door that you usually go in and out of, can you hear people in the area of the pool? ANSWER: Yes. , money, salary, income, and assets. ANSWER: I am not sure. QUESTION: Now, Mr. Parent came to the guest house, did you engage in some conversations? QUESTION: Well, if you were in another room of your guest house, could you have heard it? This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I went to the bedroom and got another phone and plugged it into the wall. But fear-stricken Hollywood residents rushed to buy guns yesterday for self-protection. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 23 for identification. Casparius Garretson, Jr. son. However it may cause one to wonder why Bill set out for California with only $1.85 in his pocket if he sold the Camaro. Billy and so many other youths were drawn west like moths to the flame and it never stops. If you can believe it, six people lived in my town when I was born. son. If you live near any kind of mountain/valley situation, pay a visit and give it a go - it's quite surprising. MR. BUGLIOSI: May I mark this guest house, Your Honor? I really could not say. Other choices existed. QUESTION: Were you employed on the premises? QUESTION: Do you recall it being brisk, or did it appear to be a typical August evening? May it be marked as Peoples 17 for identification? The property at 10050 Cielo Drive was designed by renowned architect Robert Byrd in 1942 and completed in 1944. Garretson. Wife of William Garretson married 28 Oct 1762 in Huntington, York, Pennsylvania, USA. QUESTION: Ok. Did you eventually fall asleep? William Garretson Browne, age 90, passed peacefully after a long illness surrounded by his dedicated wife, four sons and brother in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio on August 31, 2017. ANSWER: I told him to be quiet. And over the years I've been following this blog we have had any number of inchoate, inarticulate and frequently obscene babblings which are best left uncommented. Thank you for reading the results of my research today. However, in a 1990s documentary about Sharon Tates death, Garretson changed his story and stated that he heard what sounded like firecrackers being thrown from Steven Parents car and thought it was a prank pulled by Parent, who had just departed. . There's no man hanging around to give Billy his name and then abandon him. QUESTION: So you did hear Christopher barking, isnt that correct? If you haven't read the Bill (and one post labeled William) Garretson posts on the right, you should. Both of Kathleen's sisters, and Luther, even tho he looks like Slingblade in his mugshot, were good looking people. he was or anything. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. She was a retired drug store cashier. Or computer by now. And then move into Cielo Drive (albeit the not air-conditioned guest house) with the property owner who also btw runs around town with Hollywood stars? Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. Garretson did not explain why he had withheld his knowledge of the events. Good point. Late night parties did occur at the main house so it is entirely possible that Garretson did not fully understand what danger was occurring that night. QUESTION: And then you were released from custody? Check out cielodrive.com. QUESTION: In other words, there would be an interlude of about 6 seconds between the time you heard the dogs bark and the time that the person knocked on your door, is that correct? He stated in connection with questions about dogs barking that: It was about 2 or 3 hours after he left, referring to Steven Parent, somewhere around there, that is when I looked out in the yard. MR. FITZGERALD: That it was 2 or 3 hours after Parent left that he heard the dogs barking. They drove there with the explicit intention of killing as many people as they found there, stealing their money, and staging the scene to look as though black people had committed the murders. Do you know what is shown in that photograph? !And, that ALMOST answers your query - "I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer before but what do I know? Anything I recall is freely available out there to anyone. Thought provoking comments today, sir. QUESTION: About what time did he make a phone call? They took me across. ANSWER: Yes, there is. I'll take his mom's story at face value. Linda Lou Derr died at the end of July 2020. Billy could've been a waiter or a bartender or a whatever if he had a problem with being a male prostitute. There appears to be an object there on the seat. QUESTION: What woke you up, the police or the dogs? Didn't know Billy had it in him. Soon after, Charles Manson and five followers were arrested and charged with the murders of seven people, including the actress. Smaller dude. QUESTION: Do you recall what you did that day? QUESTION: You didnt have a watch or clock? ANSWER: Around 8:00 pm, I went down to Sunset Boulevard. Like that awful Hillbilly Elegy traitor author to the Scots-Irish, the reincarnate Flavius Josephus of the hollers, I now believe Charlie exploited and caricature'd our massive, migratory blob for his own benefit every time he opened his mouth about us. Scrolling through the labels along the right side of the blog reveals that this is the thirteenth time blog writers have mentioned Billy (and remembered to make a label). It's not worth a lot today but nothing on the river is really. Overruled. Revenge. Sadly, there's just not a lot out there to study. MR. FITZGERALD: Certainly I will do that. Sharon Tate, eight-and-a-half months pregnant, had been stabbed repeatedly and was curled in a fetal position as if to protect her unborn son. Mr. Bugliosi suggested I approach the bench before I ask the impeaching question. Then three years later . That is the living room in the guest cottage. I did not know who Were you on the couch at all during the night that you have been testifying about? We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. I'd say, "Gimme the straight dope, Billy. QUESTION: Did you walk by the main house when you walked back to the guest house? No electric clocks in the guest house. Even if you stand firm in other beliefs, it's interesting that we might have a block of missing time in Billy's California life as told in the narrative. QUESTION: Have you ever seen them prior to today? One can hear neighbors talking on the phone at a normal conversational voice level quite clearly from incredibly far away, depending on the weather and other conditions. By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. GreenWhite said: I think you have an eidetic memory, yes?No. QUESTION: Will you please step down from the witness stand, sir, just temporarily, and indicate where in the living room the stereo was. ANSWER: Two weeks to a month before the incident. Garretson was still in custody the next night when the LaBiancas were tied up with lamp cords and stabbed to death in Los Feliz. "I can't believe there was so much evil in one person," she said. Billy grew up without a father in this tidy little home. And you might also learn something. Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant?How Garretson got the job is irrelevant and therefore a distraction and it was important, especially so early in the trial {I think he was the third witness}, not to entertain things that could get any juror's mind wandering.Later in the trial, when Rudi Altobelli is on the stand, both Bugliosi and Ronald Hughes question him a bit on the hiring of Bill Garretson. QUESTION: Later on in the early morning hours? . QUESTION: Did you hear Mr. Parent talking? John Garretson. If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. Tom and Dave were mowing the lawns on the Friday afternoon, with no way of knowing what would occur mere hours later. QUESTION: Did you consider these dogs, bearing in mind your experience with them, as watchdogs of any sort? Immediate Family: Son of John Garretson and Content Garretson. He was the only survivor of the slayings, and the attacks marred his life forever. He was the homosexual that Charles mentioned in a interview that sold him drugs and pornography on several occasions. Keep the jury focusing on something other than what the prosecution wanted them to focus on. Ohioan William Garretson, 19-years old, was living at 10050 Cielo Drive in posh Benedict Canyon, Bel Air, in the summer of 1969. And he was high profile. QUESTION: Again, did you pay any particular attention to that? Personally I thought she was most effective low in the mix. Before we get motoring, I want to assert that one indisputable truth in this whole big Charles Manson milieu is that the road is littered with children no one gave a shit about and often hurt. Buntline - Agree. "Uncle Bill had no teeth"Uncle Bill was an engineer on the B&O RR and in his early 40's at the oldest. I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer beforeIt's hard to believe, true. Both his aunt Glenna and her husband Bill got a college education during the Depression. QUESTION: When you were originally arrested you were taken to the West Los Angeles Division of the Los Angeles Police Department, were you not? He was hired to work as the property caretaker, and lived in small one-bedroom guest house at the rear of the property, behind the pool. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, Manson Exposed: A Reporter's 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder, CHARLES MANSON: Helter Skelter; The Entire Life Story, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Member of the Family: My Story of Charles Manson, Life Inside His Cult, and the Darkness That Ended the Sixties, The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten: Life Beyond the Cult, Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson, The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Manson in His Own Words: The Shocking Confessions of The Most Dangerous Man Alive by Charles Manson. QUESTION: In addition to caring for Mr. Altobellis dogs, did you have any other duties? He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. QUESTION: What happened to Christopher? Ann Underwood. I didnt wind them up. All Rights Reserved. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Interestingly, this is consistent with others who heard yelling/gunshots after 1am. Torque said it may cause one to wonder why Bill set out for California with only $1.85 in his pocket if he sold the Camaro. Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. First, I found her phone number from 2002 on Ancestry. Doug,I wish I could help with the Patty dialogue but don't recall ever seeing it. Luther became a minister shortly before he died at 33 years old. You get into the porch, then the patio. He was held for questioning over the weekend and released after police said there was just no evidence against him. 7 Nov 2021Sunday If anyone is on West Coast time or stays up later in other time zones and wants to hang out tonight, I'm a guest host on The Paulcast tonight at 730 pm PST. QUESTION: Did anyone live with you in the guest house? I can relate to your post, hearing "warsh" for "wash" lol. !No word of a lie! MR. BUGLIOSI: You may resume the witness stand, sir. Did Ms. Chapman and the gardener brothers also take dips? QUESTION: When you say they, who are you referring to? So that meant drawing as much suspicion on witnesses as possible {so as to make it seem either that they were lying, had done illicit deals with LE, had something to hide or create the possibility that not all of the actual killers were on trial}, ask irrelevant questions. QUESTION: You dont particularly recall this particular afternoon, is that right? You are ordered to return Monday, Mr. Garretson. Content apart, I like GreenWhite's style. According to our Database, He has no children. More:Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, More:From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, More:From the archives: Garretson freed in LA, Charles Manson, one of nation's most infamous mass killers, dead at 83. QUESTION: You did not sleep at any time during the night? I never will. QUESTION: What is shown in that photograph? starviego said:Interestingly, this is consistent with others who heard yelling/gunshots after 1amSo who, after 1am, heard dogs barking other than Emmett Steele {and don't forget, they were his own dogs !} ANSWER: I really couldnt say. The orders are so large that my friend's company delivers in a big diesel reefer truck that typically backs onto loading docks. QUESTION: Did you have a conversation with some police officers? daughter. Do you think he will be finished by 4:15? The Tate-LaBianca murders were a series of murders perpetrated by members of the Manson Family during August 8-10, 1969, in Los Angeles, California, United States, under the direction of Tex Watson and Charles Manson.The perpetrators killed six people on the night of August 8-9: pregnant actress Sharon Tate (whose unborn child died as a result) and her companions Jay Sebring, Abigail . May it be marked Peoples 18 for identification? QUESTION: This is the person that you saw from a distance on the premises?