My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. Is this a synastry, Ariel? Retro makes one thoughtful, so I do not see it as bad as many do. But interested to see how things unfold. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. Thank You so much for this info. Maybe also Mars/Uranus? Sorry, lol. Who is whom? When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. Eros/Pluto/Lilith together makes for one powerful combination. xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. In fact, it is the opposite. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. As long as we kept connecting the way we had been sexually, I was willing to "fight" for what I thought we had and felt I could withstand anything. About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. would you please shed some light as you see fit? 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? Welcome, Ariel and great questions. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. Thank you, Lo and Welcome As such, I would be careful and watchful. Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. This totally depends on someone as a person. We talk about it often (3rd house moon overlay) its just a bit overwhelming sometimes like a sweet dream one moment, then an absolute nightmare. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. I am worried about being the abuser here. Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. And posting my charf sounds like fun, I just might . You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. If you know, let me know! Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. Oops, sorry Amiann. I would need to see more, Jenn! Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. This would be once in a lifetime kind of intense and tender. You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. . I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. I am sorry. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. The charts tell all. Lilith conjunct Ascendant This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. Hi Ami. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. Aww Fluffy His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. First of all Lilith is for . I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. Just from reading this, I think it looks very good but I really need to see the wheel as it is easier. I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. What does that mean? Thank you Ariel! This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. The conjunction is excact. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? I have to always be honest. Hardly. His Eros is on her Descendant and her Eros makes a square to his Sun and conjuncts his Vertex. Composite: moon conjunct Neptune, Venus square Pluto, Black moon lilth conjunct Pluto square mars conjunct ceres..any explanations on this type of relationship would be very helpful!!?? The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. there is no contact in real life anymore but the connection via the sexual chakra (either sacral or root chakra ) is still there and very strong. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. So the theory doesnt check out. It will not heal anyone to tell them that they are wrong when they say that their relationship is healthy and happy even though they have an aspect that you think is destined to be unhealthy. Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. Eros in a synastry chart. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. 9. Please, keep giving your opinion. Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. The chart allows one to see oneself. DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. He may abuse her and it would be seen publicly. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. What is your opinion on 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. . He was considered irresistible. Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. You truly made my day! Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. TEA & ROSEMARY LLC. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. orb). I am one person with one persons experience, of course. PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Amazingly accurate. They may cause each other significant pain and strife, but God help any outsider who dares to point it out. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) When these relationships end, it is not pretty. That would be my guess. I would have to consider the scenarios more. Good afternoon, thank you for this article his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. Powerful, you say? There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! I think you will have the urge to abuse. My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? I reply to the comments out of order because I do it on the central comment form. I came across your blog post and so went through my charts looking for couple friends and this one came up as having the conjunction. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. I dont believe in past lives, Lo. They have a very imaginative sex life. Partners switch roles? I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 If it has not of yet, it may be a new relationship. I admire your wisdom. Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. Not good, my Friend. There is also a near-exact conjunction of his north node to my Eros. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. I have very wide-orbed Eros-Lilith contacts (not conjunctions) in my two last relationships (they are Eros, I'm Lilith), but both relationships were so 8th house-oriented and Plutonian that it's hard to tell where Lilith comes in. Is it relevant? It needs to be 3 degrees, tops, so no worries there! Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners.