You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. A recent study looked at the most reliable and least reliable car manufacturers, and Peugeot came out on top. Keep me in the conversation via email. Too bad the seller wants top dollar for a project car and cant even change the clutch! Oldsmobile built the W-31 as "somewhat of an insurance-beater," or a "junior supercar" with engine parts "hand-picked" for a "blueprinted" build, he says. Neat car. This difference in philosophy between the two manufacturers can be directly felt first on the reliability of the vehicles. Through a number of conversations I was asked if I knew anyone who was interested in a 1970 Oldsmobile W-31. For those hardcore Oldsmobile W-Series collectors, they will know what a truly special car this is, more specifically, the engine. The 68 Ram-Rod used the standard 4-Barrel Distributor. m)s of torque and incorporated low-restriction dual exhausts. There are 17 Oldsmobile Cutlass for sale across all model years (1961 to 1999) and variants, 8 are 3rd Gen and none are model year 1970 . I'm currently in the process of working on a W-31 Authentication Guide and am hoping to have it published sometime next year. It was the body number, which matched the one on his cowl tag. It's easy! Its not accurate. Email: contact@drivinithome.com. While it is true these are limited number models, the cost to restore this after paying the asking price will put you upside down in a hurry. For 1970, 3,100 W-30s were built. These models were equipped with the B-09 442 package. AS mentioned above, the Cutlass W-31 came with a 350 cubic inch V-8 engine with 325 HP. In time, he also began buying Oldsmobile parts cars and stripping them. production date code (month/day), and a suffix code which identifies the engine. if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'barnfinds_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_4',148,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-barnfinds_com-large-leaderboard-2-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'barnfinds_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_5',148,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-barnfinds_com-large-leaderboard-2-0_1'); .large-leaderboard-2-multi-148{border:none !important;display:block !important;float:none !important;line-height:0px;margin-bottom:7px !important;margin-left:auto !important;margin-right:auto !important;margin-top:7px !important;max-width:100% !important;min-height:250px;padding:0;text-align:center !important;}. The body was refinished in its factory shade of Nugget Gold Metallic (53) during prior ownership in 1984 according to the seller, and photos of paint meter readings are provided in the gallery below along with close-up photos depicting the paint and trim. inch block. As these cars became more popular, Stephen began to question things like verifying an Olds as a real 4-4-2. When you bid we pre-authorize your credit card for the service fee (this helps prevent fraud). Car Fin Styling of the 1950s / Photos and History, How to Find Vintage and Antique Car Parts, Locations of Serial Numbers and Stamps on Vintage Vehicles, Model T Serial Numbers and Registering Antique Vehicles, Sample Decodings of Classic Car Serial Numbers, Search for Cars, Trucks and Parts / Advertise on this Site, The Worlds Two Highest Selling Cars At Auction, Tips on Keeping Your Antique Car or Truck Looking Great, Value of Classic and Vintage Cars and Trucks. "That's when I got really charged up over those cars. The inline six alternative had a very limited following. In the early 1980s, model-year production totaled more than one million vehicles several times, something only Chevrolet and Ford had achieved. With that being said, the asking price is ridiculous. I started buying cars in 1980 and through the years they almost all had at least 70k and yet somehow all these cars have half that 30-40 yrs later Research indicates that there were about 1,300 W-31s assembled in 1970 across all body styles. 5 Ws ABOUT EVERY CAR! This rare and beautiful 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass W31 is now available from MaxMotive. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Oldsmobile created interest in Cutlass performance with offerings such as the 1970-71 SX, powered by a 455 V-8, and the 1970 Rallye, with a 350 V8 and its 325 HP under the hood. Sales began to drop and its a bit of a debate as to what the cause was. I also plan on expanding it to cover the 1968 and 1969 W-31 cars as well. this is a 15,000$ car tops if it is what it is and all there. I look at the fonts. Obviously, that dramatically boosted the value of the car. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. A couple of years ago I drove out to New Jersey to authenticate a couple of cars for a client in California. Tune in as we explore this one-of-160-built F85-based Rallye 350! The all-new Turbo GT model is at the top of the model range. Porsche and BMW are very different premium brands one is known for speed and agility and the other for luxury and engine power. For North America, the 2022 Hyundai Tucson launches with a, A rare treat, this is the first time Porsche has published a feature like this. Kia in collaboration with Lucky Group has taken the initiative of establishing their manufacturing plant in, In general, you should expect to service your Porsche every 10,000 miles or once per year. The tach in the dash currently isnt the original OEM tic-toc-tach. With the most numb handling, predictable performance, suspension with no connection to the road and without raising an eyebrow of passers-by due to its ubiquitous jellybean style. A road less traveled. . One of the best examples was the 340 CI Dodge Dart GTS which later helped spawn Plymouths Duster 340. If not, that would also suggest the miles advertised are off by 100k. We stumbled onto this decrepit screaming yellow zonker during a waltz through Sendell's Auto Specialties in Shelbyville, N.C. (704/434-6759), a GM-centric salvage yard specializing in 1962 through 1988 models. "Unless you have a paper trail, it's next to impossible to say this is a true W-31 factory car," he says. Most powerful production V-8 engine with 797 horsepower and 707 lb. On a true four-speed car, you'll see the slag on the edges of the opening. Also, I would imagine that this W-31s road manners are pretty enjoyable, owing to a smaller displacement engine, with a stout horse-power rating and running through a manual transmission. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Please enable JavaScript to engage in the discussion on this site. Enter the junior super car. In J.D. World's fastest mass-produced sedan with a top speed of 203 mph. That is the color most chosen by Camry buyers during its entire production run, rumor has it. Reconnected! Does not have the original carb. It was introduced as an option package for F-85 and Cutlass models sold in the United States beginning with the 1964 model year. Engine stamping 30M304131 is pictured above. 1969 Oldsmobile 442s, except for the Hurst had the 400 cubic inch engine, not the 455. Total 1970 Oldsmobile production was 633,980 vehicles. These fenders had a flat ridge running all the way down to where they meet the hood. If you win the auction, your card will be charged for the service fee and you pay the seller directly for the vehicle. Kids with heads full of Hendrix, Joplin, and Dr. Leary took the wheel of high-horsepower youth machines for the first time everwith often tragic consequences. I don't have a lift, a compressor, or anything like that, just handtools. I owned a 70 W-31 4-speed that was in much better condition than this car and sold it for about half of what the owner is asking for this car. It is a bucket seat/no console environment, which is not encountered that often, though the shifter boot bezel is missing. Suspension with the W-31 package upgraded the front and rear coil-spring suspension to the FE2 heavy duty components This included special springs and tubular hydraulic shocks. The Cutlass would turn out to be one of the industrys longest-running and most successful names. That's when he found himself immersed in a W-31 time capsule in this rural Ohio garage. As the car was originally Rallye Pac equipped it is a shame that the Tic-Toc-Tach is MIA. Oldsmobile Division only made 500 of those cars, and all of them were four-speeds. Porsche offers the 911 in six trim levels: Carrera, Carrera S, Lamborghini dealerships own the vehicles seen in showrooms and if you want one be prepared to wait six to 12 months. For more info, read about our auctions or email us with any questions. Fortran FAQ.Com. I liked the under bumper hood scoops on the 68-69, just like the bad W/30. Its good to see that the W25 air induction scoops/air-cleaner are still present and hopefully functioning. 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Find out where they were built. Hopefully a prospective buyer can negotiate a somewhat lower price. Is a restored a car harder to authenticate? What makes the W-31 the car it is, is Oldsmobile' 325 HP, 350 CI, V8 engine. That really helps when you're putting one of these cars back together. Of course if money is if no consequence. A special edition Hurst/Olds paced the Indy in 1972. This car is way overpriced, by the time you bring it back to life you will have well over $50,000 invested. Sign up for a new account in our community. During the period from 1968-1972 most Olds Cutlass buyers went with the V-8 series standard 350 cubic inch engine. That is why the Hurst company built the Hurst Oldsmobile with the 455. In 1970, Oldsmobile Division stamped out only one style of fender. I question even a lot of pristine cars on Ebay the same way. Always question everything else the seller says when he wont do something basic like clutch replacement and his asking is so high. Many Oldsmobile enthusiasts say that the declining sales were in fact caused by the this is not your fathers Oldsmobile campaign. The two kept in contact, and in January 2018, Jimmy made an appointment to look at the Oldsmobile. Believe it or not, the hardest things to find these days are N.O.S. We dont have any photos of the drivers side of the car, whats hiding there? Sitting at the top of our list is the Porsche Cayenne with an impressive 84.2% retained retail value after three years. When Stephen J. Minore was in high school, his father Joe, a gas station operator, took him aside and gave him some advice. Celebrating the 100,000th Bring a Trailer Auction! That's why, in 2013, he noticed a post on the classicoldsmobile.com forum from Andy Wenz of Cleveland. That's part of how they advertised it.". I became involved with the W-31s after I went to the 1993 Oldsmobile Nationals in Somerset, New Jersey. Larger engines, high end wheels are a few of the modifications. Oldsmobile built 1,352 of these muscle cars for the 1970 model year: 1,029 as Cutlass S Holiday Coupe two-door hardtops, 116 as Cutlass Sports Coupes (a two-door post), and 207 in the F-85. If everything checked out, then negotiation would definitely occur to the satisfaction of both parties. Chevrolet, Pontiac and Buick had been doing this and Olds joined the movement. What makes the W-31 the car it is, is Oldsmobile 325 HP, 350 CI, V8 engine. The interior is a mix. Bid for the chance to own a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Hardtop W-31 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Posts: 13 Thanks: 0. I agree. The carpet is typically faded but the dash-pad and instrument panel seems fine. Additional photos are presented in the gallery below showing the suspension, chassis, and driveline, as well as corrosion on portions of the underside. Senior year I had a six pack challenger paid 2500, Your insurance rates must have been off the charts with that lineup of cars . Equipment includes a fiberglass dual-inlet hood, sport mirrors, black accent stripes, and W-31 badging. There is a good amount of rust on areas visible in the photos, and you dont have any photos of the drivers side at all. Unless you can do all of the work yourself, I wouldnt touch it. The 1970 Oldsmobile W-Machines (W-30, W-31), all manufactured in Lansing, Michigan are considered to be the ultimate Oldsmobile Super Cars. Jimmy was astounded to find an old color print that John's mother had taken at the dealership where she picked up the car brand new. I would rather have a clean all together 200,000 mile car than one claiming such low mileage with everything worn out. This particular vehicle was a professional build automatic T-400 with 12-bolt rear, factory cold air induction, factory Ram Air hood, 4-core radiator and disc brakes. In 1968, a full 52 percent of America's population was under the age of 25. RULES: No profanity, politics, or personal attacks. Due to the low-vacuum at idle, air conditioning was not available, and power brakes were only available with an automatic transmission. Properly tuned, a W-31 is fun to drive, but it isnt going to scare anyone. First, I need to have my travel, motel, and any ancillary expenses paid for regardless whether I have to fly or drive. Sales receded to 920 W-30s for 1971 and just 772 for 1972. The flat ridge acted like a spear. In 1970, Oldsmobile Division came out with an aluminum W-31 intake similar to the one used on the W-30s and made by the same foundry. Oldsmobile muscle car fanatics, you will want to take a very close look at this amazing Olds W-Machine! It was pointed out that the largest market for Oldsmobiles was the population whose parents had in fact owned Oldsmobiles. Find new and used 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass classic cars for sale near you by classic car dealers and private sellers on Classics on Autotrader. Depending on the quality of the work the car may not even be worth it. Very rare car in restorable condition. Your email address will not be published. See prices, photos, and find dealers near you. I am trying to determine if my 1970 350 is a w31 engine It has #6 heads with 1.62 exhaust valves and it has a large harmonic ballancer,can some one tell me how to know for sure joe_padavano Members 5.9k Location: Northern VA AACA #: 914844 Other Clubs: Oldsmobile Club of America Posted June 18, 2010 Why no drivers side pics? Item specifics. Andy's father, John, bought this W-31 brand new, then parked it in his housethis housein 1984. Bidding will advance immediately to $. Did you mean to enter this number as a bid? While W-31 is down on engine displacement, the power is no different than a 68 Oldsmobile 442 with an automatic transmission so whether this serves as a high insurance premium salve or not, it is hard to say. The front passenger fender looks to be a repaint. These Oldsmobile press photos of the then-new 1968 4-4-2 were taken in April 1967 by Petersen Publishing's Bob D'Olivo. It should be noted that only the 69 and 70 used a special W-31 coded Distributor.